Monday, October 15, 2012
Period 4/5, Blog for Week of 10/14
Topic 3: The Necessity of Structure and Guidelines
Directions: In a comment, respond to the prompt below in 300+ typed words. Also be sure to respond to a classmate's comment so that we can keep our classroom conversation going.
Some people say that the rules are made to be broken. Other's say that you have to know the rules expertly before you break them. This week, we reviewed our classroom rules and procedures. Share a time you broke a rule and it worked to your advantage. Share a time you broke a rule and it left you at a disadvantage. We know that the Golden Rule is that one should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself. What is your Golden Rule? Share one personal rule you have developed for yourself that guides you in your existance and your interactions with other. Finally, are you the type of person who thrives on structure or craves chaos? Explain.
Be sure to answer all parts of the question fully. Your comment/response to my prompt should be 300+ words. Your comment/response to a friend should be 50+ words. Your blog entries must be completed by 11:59 pm on October 21, 2012.
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I think that that rules are important and we need them in out lives. if we didn't have rules than every one would take advantage. I have only broken a couple of miner rules in my life, like in your class i have taken my phone out and texted people. It did help me out in a way because my mom dropped of my money the next period and i got to eat lunch. but now i relize what i did was wrong and wont ever do it again. Also i tried to text my friend in another class and i got it token away so now i dont ever use my phone in school. i agree with your golden rule that says be treated the way you want top be treated because that relates to me. if every one would follow the rules our world would be great or better than it is now. if people would just lission to the rules then the rules in our class would be just like we started. But know we have bad rules and rules that are unfair to the people that lisen to the rules because now they have to deal with the other unfair rules. do i regret my decisions.... yes bc it didnt help me with learning and thats what im hear to do is learn and pass ms orlowsky's class. i wont ever text someone in class again because i relize that it doesn't help with any of my education. I have just resently gotten my phone taken away and i told my self that im not going to break any more rules in school. i wont break any more rules ever and its all thanks to you for teaching me how important rules are in life.
ReplyDeleteNice job, Mike. I am impressed that you have done some reflection on our class rules.
Deletemike some of this i highly doubt but... i do like that you put effort into the rules!
DeleteRules are most certainly important. You used them in your everyday life. Obviously some are going to be broken, that's normal. No one strongly can say they haven't broken a rule because everyone has. I break my parents rules all the time. Not the important ones though. Like for example, I went to my friend's party one weekend and my mom asked me to be home right after it's over. It was over at 10 but I didn't come home until 12. My mother really wasn't all that mad at me because she knows where I was, and that I was safe. She was a little more mad that i didn't call her and re-insure her that I was going to be late. So, that was pretty much a good advantage because I didn't get in any trouble. But one time in the summer I lied to my mom just because of the simple fact I knew she wouldn't let me go where I wanted too. I told her I was going with my friend to Bayville, but we really went to New York. She found out and grounded me for two weeks; I understand why though.. She always wants me to tell her where I'm at and what I'm doing, just in case if anything goes wrong. I'm not mad at her for it though, she's completly right. I don't really go by anybodys rules besides mine and my parents. My golden rule is respect others no matter how you feel. I go by this because of one insident that had occured awhile ago. I was at my cousins party and we were all joking around. We were making fun of this one person, not knowing she was taking offence by it. That same night she went home and tried to committe suicide. Her parents caught her and stopped her. I felt extremly bad because I could have stopped it if I knew she felt some type of way. We were only kidding and we thought she knew that, but apparently not. So the week after we all went to visit her, and we appologized deeply for it. Ever since then, we really haven't brought up anything bad to her. I hate drama and I'm not the one to fight unless I have too. I'm more of a structure type of person, so being in that type of situation mad me feel uncomftorable.
ReplyDeleteI Htae this and im not sure if its keeping the conversation going but I am going to be brutaly honest with you. First of all i realy doubt that you were unaware of the fact that while you were MAKING FUN of a human being they were taking offense. I doubt that you and your friends were just joking around. No you probably had this poor girl pinned up and were taking shots at her. Do you understand how badly you have to break a persons mind down to make them want kill them self. You would have to have verry low self esteem to kill yourself over what you call a "joke". And even if she did have low self esteem what was she doing at a party filled with people who have the potential to notice her flaws and idiosyncrasies. Sorry im not buying it. If your going to tell the story then at least be honest to not only the lage crowd of people who might read this but at least be honest to yourself.
DeleteI totaly agree with you maria I hate drama too and Iwill not fight with some one unless i have too. I really liked your examples in your story. Like you I dont agreewith making funof someone but you tryed and fixed the sistution with that girl my telling her how bad you felt. All in all I relally liked your story.
DeleteI agree with your golden rule because if you are in an angry mood from your parents say example and your talking to a friend and you are mean to them because your in a bad mood your friend isnt going to like you anymore. This is why i agree with your golden rule.
DeleteOK you asked for it.... First of all WHO at one point in time decided that they were so great that they could just go ahead and manipulate people into following THEIR guidlines? And even if it was a GROUP effort to freekin dictate the human race then who decided that they were in charge? Yeah,you know what screw rules. Screw the standard how about that! And now im aressted right? thats whats holding me back, right! No! Why and when did we decide to hire people to ENFORCE those rules. People are humans with soles and spirits and they are going to do whatever they want. If you are a person then nobody should rule you or be able to control you.Every human is here for a reason and weather its to play some role as a pawn in societies game or to be the best person you possibly can you shouldnt be controlled. And the worst part is, is that absolutely nobody gives a damn because its worked for them this long so why should they care, why should they involve themselves with politics or make their vote count, nah its all about minorities and whats ok and whats not, not about whats going to save us from our very selves and our many self destructive habits. Rules are for people who cant handle whats on the god damn plate in front of them they cant just eat whats on it they have to pick and choose whats "safe" for them or whats "healthy" for them or how "many ounces" there are. We concern ourselves with the simplest problems and then change things in the system,CONSTANTLY. We have never once made a system that has worked to its fullest absolute potential and not crashed itself into the ground from total structural failure. Wich is why our legal system is so corrupt. We have so any body can get out of just about any kind of trouble. In this country with the right amount of money and the right mindset anything is possible. But Yes i have broken rules before, and i have broken extrme rules too but weather they have worked to my advantage, im not even sure,but what i do know is that maybe they werent the best decisions. Without rules we certainly would not be this far along or understand alot of things. Weather that makes them IMpoRtAnt moraly, i dont know but i dont think that makes them OK. We are to far along now to ever go back to a simpler easier time and maybe its better now but who can say?Oh wait i know who!....
ReplyDeleteKevin Bryan...oh dear, I suppose I did ask for it! I appreciate your commitment to your stance and the fact that you involve yourself in politics and the world around you. I could live without the cursing, but I understand the emotion you were trying to convey. Food for thought...your line about being a pawn in society's game and being the best person you possibly can intrigued me...is it possible to be the best person you possibly can even with rules in place?
DeleteIn an aspect rules are supposed to be broken, but in another aspect there not. Rules are to teach you not do do something, for if its for your saftey, a law, to help somebody, to be fair, or even to not cheat so you can do it yourself. But in another aspect sometimes rules are supposed to be broken. But it should never be meant to hurt somebody. A time where I broke a rule was i took some cookies from my pantry when i was 7, but the point was is i didnt hurt anybody, and there nobody found out. the advantage was i got some cookies even thought i wasnt allowed to. Theres no point on being on this earth if you want to be like everybody else, and being perfect, and being the most perfect. The rules are meant to be to give you a liitle bit of room to explore. I believe if you break rules it can also give you stradigies for other things in live. Breaking rules are good if it can help you in the same sense help others and it gives you a good experience weather its a lesson that is good or bad. A rule that i broke and it came to a disadvantage was when i skipped out on baseball practice to go to a party. it was a big disadvantage first off because the party was not fun agt all, and second because i got in trouble by my parents and my coach. You have to think ahead of time, think outside the box. You also have to realize the consiquences, and understand that you break that rule again. There are ways to breaking rules for good reasons. breaking rules is apart of life, what comes out of it teaches you weather to do it again or not. Thats why alot of people say, learn from your mistakes, thats the lesson you learn from breaking each rule. Learning from your mistakes give you a bigger aspect of life in a good and bad way. It helps you so you learn not to do the same mistake twice but its good because it give you room to explore and figure out if you should do it again or not.
ReplyDeleteInteresting content, Jordan. I enjoyed reading your response.
DeleteSome people claim that rules are made to be broken while others follow them and every word they read. One time I had broken a rule was in 3rd grade while taking a multiplication test. I cheated. We were doing a timed test on multiplication and I used a times table pencil. So whenever my teacher said a number times this number I would quickly look at the pencil and write it down. It worked to my advantage because I got the ice cream party at the end of the week. When I look back on it now it really didn’t matter because I know all of my multiplication facts now. One time when I broke a rule and it didn’t work to my advantage was when I was about 7 and I was in my parent room and they were helping me with something and turned bad for me. My parents hate using foul language and when I was young crap,stupid,shut up were all considered “bad words” to my parents. So they were helping me and I said the word stupid and I got slapped in the leg by my mom. My personal golden rule is one my dad and grandma say to me all the time when I was younger and my dad still says to me. Words mean things, it’s not really a rule but it’s something to me and I take as think before you speak. I’m more of the person that thrives on chaos. I’m more of a drama is entertaining for me and surprisingly it helps me focus on other things. I’m not usually a rule breaker but if I do break a rule its usually a very small rule and not very big on punishment and getting in trouble.
ReplyDeletei agree with what you said about some people think that rules are made to be broken but other dont. ive ran into it a few times where people thought it was cool and smart brake a rule and i saw that is was basically their down fall. they got caught and got it trouble. anyway i know what you mean...
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DeleteI agree with you that some rules are meant to be broken and that are not. You made very good points though out you writing and I thought that is was very good. I thought the personal examples where as something that added to the quality of the essay
I liked your Golden Rule, Susannah. Words certainly do mean things...that is why I love the subject area I teach! I enjoyed your response.
DeleteThere are a lot of people that think it's ok to break rules.They think rules are meant to be broken.Rules are not meant to be broken though.Rules are made for a reason.For example school rules are meant to keep classrooms quiet so kids can learn. Without these rules we wouldn't be able to get an education because every thing would be out of control.There are also rules to keep students wanting to go to school. Or a rule that keeps people from being bullied.This is the golden rule,"treat others with the same amount of respect that you want to be treated with."I broke a rule in school once. Me and like four friends were hitting each other playing around. But you are not supposed to do that because it's against the rules.As a result we all got suspended for a day.I don't really strive for chaos because I am a calm person.I try to get an education ,but I do have fun talking to friends in school.This is because a main rule i follow is to treat the teacher with respect because your education comes from them,so they need to be able to teach.I think most rule is important for the success of student, so i try not to break them.
ReplyDeleteNice work, Chance. I enjoyed reading your response.
DeleteRules are not made to be broken. The rules are made to keep the other people and yourself safe. Without rules there would be complete chaos and people would be doing very dangerous things that could poetically injure or kill other people. But there are rules that will be broken that’s normal for anyone. Some people can say they have never broken rules but that would be a lie. Everyone has broken rules weather they were a small rule or a bigger rule that is more important. I have broken rules before. My parents say I have always been a rule breaker ever since I was little. One time when I was two my dad and uncle were cleaning out my dad’s boat. My dad had set me down on the counter along with a cb radio for the boat in front of me. I took the whole radio in less than five minutes with my bare hands. It took my dad and my uncle two hours to put it back together, but since I was little I did not get in trouble. So that incident worked out in my favor. But now when I get in trouble or grounded depending on how much trouble I am in. I have many incidents where I have broken a rule and it has not worked in my favor but right now I cannot think of any. Rules are made to keep people safe and they are made to be broken. My golden rule is to respect other at first. What I mean by that is respect everyone at first, but if they do something shady or disrespectful than you cannot like them. I hate drama; also I am not the one to fight with someone unless I have too. I am a structure type of person with school, outside of school I could care less with what is going on.
ReplyDeletei agree with you when you say that rules aren't specifically meant to be broken!
DeleteI like your Golden Rule; I try to respect everyone else initially, too. I enjoyed your response. Nice work using the RACE model.
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ReplyDeleteSome people say that the rules are made to be broken. Others say that you have to know the rules expertly before you break them. I think rules are made to be broken in a way because people want to do what they want to do and they don’t want people holding them back. For example laws and for example seatbelts some people don’t like them because they have something against them or just want to look cool when having friends in car whatever the reason. Also people will study the rules for example again laws and they will find ever little loop hole they can to not get in trouble with it and to get past it to do what they want to do. Sometimes students will use their cell phones in class when there not supposed to, to talk to their friends or if they are in need of help on a test they can cheat using that. I personally don’t remember when I broke a rule and got a disadvantage on it but I do remember for when I followed a rule. In Spanish class the teacher said not to use our phones or iPods during class but she said when we were done and I listened to here but some people didn’t and they got caught doing it. By the end of class when we were allowed to use our phones they people who used their phones during class were not allowed to do it at the end of class. My golden rule is just to listen to what a person says or what a person tells you to do and you will get reworded in the end and other people who don’t listen will not be able to do most things if they don’t listen.
I think there is a lot to be said for listening, Nick. I think when people are reluctant to follow rules initially, but by listening closely, they can discover the rationale behind whatever it is they do not want to hear.
DeleteI totally agree with nick, some people just want to look cool. I dont know why some people would think it would be cool but some people do. Also i agree that not everybody wants to be controlled nor be told what to do. In a both ways rules are supposed to be followed and broken in some what of an aspect but thats just my opionin.
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ReplyDeleteFollowing rules is a fact of life, they are everywhere in school, at home and in sports. However, In some situations the exact following of rules can be difficult. After spending a long period of time considering possible answers to this question I came to the conclusion that at the age of Fourteen I do not possesses enough life experience to confidently answer this question. The situation has simply not occurred. One common rule of my parents that I seem to break quite often is talking back when I am being corrected for doing something that I should not have been doing n the first place. Often what would have ended with my parents just yelling at me, ends up with me losing my computer for a reasonable amount of days. My golden rule is a variation of the original golden rule. I try to be kind to everyone even if they feel the need to be mean to me. By following this I Feel that I am doing the right thing and not contributing to bad situations. I am an individual who thrives in structured environments. For example, I am the type of person who feel the need to be on time for everything from family events to mandatory sports practices. If I am even five minutes late I feel angry with my self and that I have let people down. I hate the whole idea of change in general I feel that change breaks the structure of the way I live my life and my everyday routine. Rules are everywhere we all have to follow them , however, as I get older I understand that most rules can and should be broken in some situations. A person should carefully consider where and when to take these actions
I agree with you. My parents also have the no back talking rule. That is definately a hard one to follow! I also try to follow the Golden Rule, as I would hope everyone else tries to also.
DeleteAmelia, I enjoyed the maturity you conveyed in this response, even while reflecting on the lack of experience you have had with this topic to date. Great job.
DeleteRules are put in place for a reason. Is society didn't have rules to live by, the world would be a mess. We may not agree all the time with all the rules, but we should do our best to follow them at all times. I played soccer when I was younger, and the coach always had all these rules that I thought were dumb. He would make us run laps around the outside of the field at the end of practice when we were all exhausted. There were a bunch of us that would do it by the rules when he was watching, and we would cut half the field when he wasn't to make it easier on us. I definately benifited from doing that because I didn't have to run as much when I was so tired. When I think back on it now, I understand why the coach had those rules. They helped us be conditioned better for when we played our games. By breaking that rule, it also left me at a disadventage. When it came time for our games, and I had to run the field, I was easily out of breath. It definately made me re-think breaking the rules again during soccer. Plus the fact that I really felt bad for doing it that way while half of the kids did it right. I'm not sure I have a "Golden Rule". I believe in treating people the way you want to be treated. I try my best to think about what I say and do to others. I definately need structure in my life. I have a hard time keeping track of time, and what needs to be done when. My mom calls me the absent minded professor because I forget to do alot of things. Rules and structure are definately good for me.
ReplyDeleteNice work, Josh. You did some very evident reflection on the value of rules.
Deleteokie doke. Rules . Sometimes are unreasonable, actually they are unreasonable most of the time. I strongly dislike this country's government system for the fact that they think they know what's best for us. I can't say I don't break the law at least once a day... But I still obviously believe that murder is wrong, as well as slaughtering animals. When i was little i never really enjoyed the smell and taste of meat anyway. So i just stopped eating it, and joined Peta2. But anyway, I think that the school should re-new there policies because they are very unreasonable. The school's bully policy is complete garbage. Last year, some kid i barely knew was sitting at my lunch table. He had some sort of Mental disorder, i had said a sexual phrase in a joke to my friend Ryan. The next day I was called into the office, apparently this kid took offence to the phrase... Even though it had nothing to do with him, it wasn't directed towards him, and it was totally irrelevant to his life. I got suspended for 2 days, and had to take "Bully Temper" classes for two weeks. Needless to say i wasn't happy about it and ever since then i have boycotted most unreasonable school policies and have started speaking my mind to authority figures a lot more. I know i have an attitude and a bad temper but whenever someone says that to me. I'll always remember that poorly written rules are the reason I can't stand the people that write them, or the people that enforce them. So yes, i understand that you should always follow the rules, no matter how stupid they are. I don't wanna sound like an idiot, but this country was based off of freedom, and cast-aways, and murderers, and thiefs, drugs, and rulebreaking of all sorts, and i don't ever remember early America being 13 trillion dollars in debt. Just saying, i feel like this country spends to much time writing laws that people are going to break anyway so that this country just spends more on putting people in jail. Rules, make no sense. And you could say all you want about how without rules this country would be corrupt. But i feel like it would be so much better.
ReplyDeleteNic, I enjoyed reading your original take on this subject. While some questions in the prompt went unanswered, the content was certainly intriguing.
DeleteSome people say that the rules are made to be broken. Other's say that you have to know the rules expertly before you break them.I myself have broken a few rules. Some of the consequences have benefited me, and others have not. But, no matter what, I had to know the rules in order to break them. In the middle school, there is a rule that demands the seventh and eighth graders to sit on certain sides of the cafeteria. When I was in seventh grade, I broke that rule. I knew a couple of eight graders at the time and I wanted to sit with them. Upon sitting with them, I met this girl named Martina. She was funny and we instantly got along. If I never broke the rule and never sat on the opposite side of the cafeteria, then I would never have met my best friend. Now, in that case a consequence worked in my favor but most of the time I do not seem to be that lucky. For example, in school the Golden Rule is to not talk back to a teacher. Now i can say that I've broken that rule a numerous amount of times. In my eight grade math class I had a substitute that i was not the fond of. I constantly talked back to her. I look back on my actions that day and I regret how immature I was. I got sent down to the office and the substitute wrote my original teacher a note. I have now learned my lesson to not speak back, unless spoken to. When it comes to my family, I get very defensive. I do not like to see one of my family members upset, especially when it is caused by another person. I was brought up in a household where you put everyone else before yourself. When I here people talking bad about my sisters or parents, I will quickly flip out. My number one rule in life, is to always defend my family. Blood is thicker than water. I know that I will be this way for the rest of my life, and I have no concerns with that! When it comes to rules, I am not a black and white type of person. I like to go with the flow and do what I want when I want. I do not like structure and being told what is right, and what is wrong. I like to be crazy and make my own rules. I am controllable, but I am my own person. I like to have space to breathe, and be myself.
ReplyDeleteVictoria, I always enjoy reading your responses. I love your devotion to your family and your diplomatic take on the rules.
DeleteA time that I broke “the rules” is when I was taking a test and I sort of cheated. I used my phone to look up one of the answers. In a way it did work to my advantage I ended up getting a 100 on the test. However there was a time where I broke a rule and it can as a disadvantage to me. I broke a rule, which I found necessary, and took my phone out. I was texting my mother to ask he something and I was going to put it away and the teacher took it away from me. As you can see it was a disadvantage, I got my phone taken away and I had to go down to the office to get it back. I have a few golden rules some I was taught, and some I sort of learned on my own. The one that I learned is the one my mom taught me. She says always bit your tongue. I way it means, to think before you speak, and basically bite your tongue. Let say that someone says something that offends you or that you don’t take a liking to, stop before you say anything dumb and watch yourself. Because before you know it you can get yourself into deep trouble. I have a tendency to do that a lot I just can’t help it sometimes it just blurts out of me, and after if i’m not in trouble then I feel really bad about it. Anyway the one I learned from experience is, the “golden rule, to treat others the way you want to be treated. Like I said I learned from experience that if treat someone like dirt they will treat you the same way or worst. I am the type of person who thrives on structure. I can’t deal with chaos, because I will literally have a panic attack. I can’t deal with the mess and too much on my plate. It bothers me in a way like have the most irritating thing you can think of right in front of you. It’s just like that you just want to get rid of it.
ReplyDeleteI feel the same way about chaos, Brianna. I become very irritated in chaotic situations as well. This is a very thoughtful response. Nice work.
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ReplyDeleteMy golden rule is if you do good to others they will do good for you. This is my golden rule because this has always worked for me in the past and still dose now. See i find it that if you help somebody the will eventually help you back. Or if your ice to somebody the be nice back. Also if you do somebody a favor they will return the favor. This rule has always worked for me, for instance with substitute teachers ill be good to them so there’s no reason for them to give me an attitude. Or with students like on Friday in doge ball a kid asked me for a ball so i said ill give you this one but when you get a ball return the favor and give me a ball and he did. That is why this is my golden rule most of the time it works. A time when I had broken a rule was when we were playing soccer and I cheated twice so I got kicked out of the game. After that our team was at a disadvantage because were down a player because of me being stupid. I learned my lesson and never cheated again. I learn from my mistakes if I do wrong I try to make it right. I am the kind of person that thrives on structure. I thrive on structure because with out it we have nothing. We need structure to keep organized and keep order. Also is what keeps the world the way it is. Like the supports on building we all hold up that building. Without it that building would be a pile of junk. But with structure we have power. And with power we can keep order and stay stable enough to keep that building standing strong.
I enjoyed reading your response, Nick. You show a lot of maturity and reflection in the story you shared.
DeleteThere’s many logics to rules. You simply need to follow them like I do then your life is so much easier. If you brake rules then it becomes and big production with being grounded then complaing about it and then having to have no phone or tv… well atleast in my case that’s how it is. Braking rules could be an advantage though. This might not be the best example, but asking someone for there answers. Yes it does not benefit you much but you get it done. Right? A disadvantage in rule breaking could be like if you disobey your teacher. Its in your disadvantage because one you can be sent to the principals and plus you then have to miss the lesson your being taught that day. Shouldn’t it be better just to be quiet and atleast act like you care if anything? I know for a fact if I get sent to the princapals and my parents find out then I just get into bigger trouble. My golden rule is to be one with respect. Wow.. that word. RESPECT is a word of many things! It can mean pride, intelligence, or anything else with treating others. Or even within yourself! I respect all my teachers for sure. For example, ms.orlowsky I respect her of very much. But like any other teacher how can you disrespect them? That’s like disrespecting your parents or even best friend. Its honestly not right or kind of you. Respect Is everything to some people. Then to other people its nothing… how could it be nothing? Its really easy! All it is, is to listen when others talk, pay attention to them, talk kindly, and finally do good things for people! Last but not least, im not the type of guy to start chaos. Why would I want chaos? I hate being in the middle of chaos and starting it. I do not try to start it but sometimes it just happens. Bottom line I think its just as easy to hate chaos and start it.
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